Railway PP and Boxed RZM Walther PPK
Videos to prevent you from going into Withdrawal!!
Hey guys, I'm about to leave for a one week vacation and I know you guys go into withdrawal whenever you don't get new content from Legacy Collectible. So I decided to do three quickies today before I leave. And we're going to post them Monday, Wednesday, Friday while I'm gone. So now we have quickie number three.
Okay for the last quickie of my vacation, and then I'll be back Monday, and work on a new video. About a year ago I showed on air just like the cigarettes, remember I opened them on air and said this is the first time they've been open since 1942. This holster, I opened it on air. First time ever opened and it's from 1944. Here's a little bit of that video of this holster.
Flashback
This package was never opened. Now there's a little piece of tape here and I know whenever I do something on the internet people like to call me a liar. Say that was totally fake. This has never been opened. There's a little hole here, there's a Boyt holster in here. So let's open it together, live on the air. This has not been cut. This is tape and it's not open. So I am not lying when I tell you I'm going to take a razor blade and cut the top, and we're going to pull this out and see what it is together. How cool is that? I'll be right back.
Jackpot
Okay, I haven't peaked yet. Right Randy? Okay, good. Let's take a look. It's very dirty, by the way. Oh my gosh! It's a mouse. Now look at -- oh my gosh. Holy... Oh my gosh, hit the jackpot. A Boyt, 1944. Oh my gosh, let's open this up. Surprise, surprise, tight as a drum. This is brand new, time capsule, no fakery here.
I need space, so it's going for Sale
Okay, so a year later, I'm cleaning out the safe and there's no more room in there. So I have to get rid of some things. And so this one is on the chopping block, meaning I'm going to put it on the website if you have interest in it.
This is the package that it came in. And we did talk about that on the video. And then, of course, the holster itself. I talked about a little bit of these, the white spores. I'll clean that off, but I'll leave the verdigris and I couldn't remember that word. Now it's forever seared into my brain, the verdigris, corrosion on the brass and the condition of the holster. We will all be offering this for sale, it's going to go on to the website and I just wanted to show it to you because I reminded me of this previous video and wanted to give you this update.
Here's a gun to satisfy your Appetite
Now because I haven't shown you a gun all week. I know that that doesn't satisfy you nor did the ring, well, the Hitler gun was actually a gun. Let me show you a boxed Walther PP that we got in recently, that will be also offered for sale.
A 1939 Walther PP
Okay, by now if you watch my channel, you're used to this wartime box. This is actually from I think it's 1939. This box with the Green Label and numbered here. It's with the signal indicator pin. And we open up the box, it's got the yellow interior. This is an early version of the manual and this is German writing. It's not in German, but it is German writing an that's November of 1939. Although on the back, it is dated 1936.
So this was printed in '36 and I believe put together with this gun in '39. You know by now the cleaning rod and this is the cellophane, the original cellophane that came with it. And then you know the tin. This is the second variation; the first variation has the factory embossed on here. This is just the logo. This is empty inside. Here's the spare magazine and now let's get to the gun. I just noticed there's a second cleaning rod, so we'll take that one out. I can put that with a different gun. It shouldn't have two cleaning rods in it.
A close up of the Gun
Okay, you see the 1940 and you know right away that this was a railway gun. They were the only ones that were dated 1940. And I think I said earlier that the gun was made in '39. That would be wrong, it could have been November of '39 by the time it was issued and this was stamped by the Railway Arsenal, 1940 early '40 is about right. You can see also Eagle N, so that would be 1940 and you can see the condition of the gun. Now, other railway guns that we've talked about, in fact, it's in my book, here's a quick shot of the book on SS PPs and PPKs. I do have a second section in there on the railway guns.
And I mentioned that often they serial numbered this slide, this one is not. And often they serial numbered the magazines and these are not. So the only unique characteristic is this 1940, which we know from doing the research that this was issued to a railway guard. Now, here's one disappointment about this. And we'll take a look, if you look at the serial number, you see that it is close, but not matching. So it ends with 825 and this one ends with 829P. So it is close to being matching and it did not come all together like this to me, but it is not matching, just close. Still, I thought it was worthwhile for you to take a look at a rare variation of Walther PP from 1940.
One more Gun, not for sale Though
And sometimes the quickies are just too quick. So I decided to show you one more gun and who can blame me. So check this out. I showed this to you before I think, I don't remember. If I did, it was a very long time ago, another box gun. But this has a little bit of personality. I'm not offering this one for sale, because this is in my safe. And I'd like to keep it mostly because of the provenance.
This time it's a PPK
So similar box, but this time it is a PPK. And you can see the PPK embossed on there. And then this is the bowtie label, which is the earlier variation and you do see the serial number hand numbered there. That one is in black ink and looks like it is original as it has not been written over or erased and replaced. So I believe this is the original box that came with this gun. Now again, you see what looks like Germanic writing and there's the serial number again.
Again this is another variation of early manual and you do see a party leader stamp here or a party member stamp. I'm not sure who this would have been -- it actually looks like an SA Eagle to me but I'm sure people will give me feedback. And I don't see a date on this. But this manual is from about 1935. And so is the gun.
Inside the Box
So this one has the pink interior, remember the other one was yellow. This is the pink interior, you see the earlier tin which has the factory logo on it. Let's just go ahead and open this up because I have a feeling it'll have -- Yep, it has the horsehair and the milk can tin inside, which is again, the early variation. It also comes with the spare mag for a PPK. And this early style does come with the three dummy rounds.
Close up of this PPK
Okay, and pull out the gun and you can see that it is an RZM and about 98%-99% this bluing, the fire blue is almost all intact. And you just see about 1% wear here at the muzzle and less than 1% here on the other side. So it's in incredible condition. You can see the serial number here. And again, this time it does match to the gun. So these came all together. It comes with one finger extension mag and one flat bottom. And pretty much almost all of the boxed guns that I get will have that same configuration. Here's the cleaning rod and this time, the guy actually used the horsehair to clean , So they clean this bore out the check this bore out, but I'll bet it's very clean. Because he couldn't have used this very much.
Quick Question
And if you remember who was issued the RZM? Well it was party members in '34, '35. You could order through the Nazi Party if you became a party member, you got a catalog and you could order this gun as part of your membership privileges. You would buy it at a discount and they would also do layaway and let you make payments on your brand new party member PPK. And we made the point that you don't have to be like a politician or a high-level Nazi. In fact, one we had was issued to a school teacher, basically anybody who joined the party could buy this gun.
The Provenance
And this provenance actually bears that out. So this is the veteran that brought him brought it home and you can tell from the name he's of German descent. He might be first-generation meaning he came over as a young man but Werkmeister, Hans Werkmeister you don't get much more German than that. But in this case, he lives in Falls Church, Virginia. I've been there, I actually did some workshops in Falls Church, Virginia for many years. He went for basic medical training as a private, so that would just be like stop the bleeding and basically keep them alive until the medic got there.
But then he became an interpreter, obviously, because he most likely was fluent in German. And you can see here that he served in the intelligence unit, and that basically, as prisoners were captured, they were interrogated, and he would be one of those interrogators. You can also see that he was in the war toward the end of '43 and he served all the way to '46. Again, that makes sense, because people had to stay in Germany, as they captured people and they were interrogating, especially SS officers trying to find information. And I've said before on this channel, they are also creating a network of people who could help them with the next possible war, which they were fearful that we were going to go to war with the Russians. And so they were trying to find out as much as they could about contacts and spies within the Russian army and/or the Eastern Block.
The Capture Paper
Now, here is a copy of the capture paper. Again, it has his name on it, there's Hans Werkmeister and later he became a sergeant, so you see that there. And you see the serial number of the Walther PPX. So he may not have known what the PPK was all about, he wrote PPX.
The original mailing Certificate
This is a copy of the original mailing certificate. This guy followed all the rules. He again writes PPX serial number, there's his name, and then his commanding officer. So he had permission, all the documentation to bring this home.
A note from his Son
And then this comes from his son. He said, here's the gun that he brought back. He was an intelligence, non-commissioned officer in Germany during the war. And then he received this from one of the detainees he interviewed. My understanding is it was a local official in a small town. So again, this was just a party member in a small town. So people when they have the RZM often will say, well, this was taken from a high party official. That's very nice and it sounds good. But in fact, a lot of these, just anybody who joined the party was entitled to buy the RZM. And so they are unique to this period of time, '34 - '35. They made some later, but you'll have to wait for my next book for me to go into detail on all of that.
Vacation is almost Over!
Hey, thanks for watching my quickies. By now, I'm almost done my vacation. It's Friday, I'm getting a little depressed but I'm sitting by the pool. When I'm excited about is I'll be back next week and I've got some really cool videos that I want to run by you.